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Torsion groups and the Bienvenu--Geroldinger conjecture

Salvatore Tringali, Weihao Yan

TL;DR

The paper investigates whether the reduced finitary power monoid $\mathcal{P}_{\mathrm{fin},1}(M)$ encodes the isomorphism type of the underlying monoid $M$, addressing a Bienvenu–Geroldinger–style conjecture. It develops a pullback mechanism: any isomorphism between $\mathcal{P}_{\mathrm{fin},1}(H)$ and $\mathcal{P}_{\mathrm{fin},1}(K)$ induces a bijection $g: H\to K$ with $f(\{1_H,x\})=\{1_K,g(x)\}$, and analyzes its structure via order and power-preservation properties. The main contribution proves that when $H$ and $K$ are cancellative and one is torsion (so both are torsion groups), this pullback is actually an isomorphism, yielding $H\cong K$ from $\mathcal{P}_{\mathrm{fin},1}(H)\cong\mathcal{P}_{\mathrm{fin},1}(K)$. This advances the BG-like isomorphism problem for power monoids and clarifies the torsion/cancellative regime, while leaving open the general case for arbitrary groups.

Abstract

Let $M$ be a monoid (written multiplicatively). Equipped with the operation of setwise multiplication induced by $M$ on its parts, the collection of all finite subsets of $M$ containing the identity element is itself a monoid, denoted by $\mathcal P_{{\rm fin}, 1}(M)$ and called the reduced finitary power monoid of $M$. One is naturally led to ask whether, for all $H$ and $K$ in a given class of monoids, $\mathcal P_{\fin,1}(H)$ and $\mathcal P_{\fin,1}(K)$ are isomorphic if and only if $H$ and $K$ are. The problem originates from a conjecture of Bienvenu and Geroldinger [Israel J. Math., 2025] that was recently settled by the authors [Proc. AMS, 2025]. Here, we provide a positive answer to the problem in the case where $H$ and $K$ are cancellative monoids, one of which is torsion. In particular, the answer is in the affirmative when $H$ and $K$ are torsion groups. Whether the conclusion extends to arbitrary groups remains open.

Torsion groups and the Bienvenu--Geroldinger conjecture

TL;DR

The paper investigates whether the reduced finitary power monoid encodes the isomorphism type of the underlying monoid , addressing a Bienvenu–Geroldinger–style conjecture. It develops a pullback mechanism: any isomorphism between and induces a bijection with , and analyzes its structure via order and power-preservation properties. The main contribution proves that when and are cancellative and one is torsion (so both are torsion groups), this pullback is actually an isomorphism, yielding from . This advances the BG-like isomorphism problem for power monoids and clarifies the torsion/cancellative regime, while leaving open the general case for arbitrary groups.

Abstract

Let be a monoid (written multiplicatively). Equipped with the operation of setwise multiplication induced by on its parts, the collection of all finite subsets of containing the identity element is itself a monoid, denoted by and called the reduced finitary power monoid of . One is naturally led to ask whether, for all and in a given class of monoids, and are isomorphic if and only if and are. The problem originates from a conjecture of Bienvenu and Geroldinger [Israel J. Math., 2025] that was recently settled by the authors [Proc. AMS, 2025]. Here, we provide a positive answer to the problem in the case where and are cancellative monoids, one of which is torsion. In particular, the answer is in the affirmative when and are torsion groups. Whether the conclusion extends to arbitrary groups remains open.
Paper Structure (5 sections, 15 theorems, 46 equations)

This paper contains 5 sections, 15 theorems, 46 equations.

Key Result

Lemma 2.1

Let $M$ be a monoid. A torsion element $z \in M$ has order $n$ if and only if $n$ is the smallest integer $k \ge 1$ such that $\{1_M, z\}^k = \{1_M, z\}^{k-1}$.

Theorems & Definitions (42)

  • Lemma 2.1
  • proof
  • Lemma 2.2
  • proof
  • Example 2.3
  • Lemma 2.4
  • proof
  • Proposition 2.5
  • proof
  • Lemma 3.1
  • ...and 32 more