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Asymptotically maximal Schubitopes

Jack Chen-An Chou, Linus Setiabrata

TL;DR

The paper investigates the asymptotics of the support sizes of Schubert and Grothendieck polynomials. It introduces the maximal support functions $\beta(n)$ and $\beta^{\mathfrak G}(n)$ and proves that their leading growth is governed by $\exp(n\ln n)$, with layered permutations achieving near-optimal bounds. A key technical tool is the Schubitope framework and a recursion for layered permutations that multiplies the support by factorial factors, yielding $|\mathrm{supp}(\mathfrak S_w)| \ge \prod_k \lfloor n/2^k\rfloor!$ for a carefully chosen block structure, and hence $\lim_{n\to\infty}\frac{\ln \beta(n)}{n\ln n}=1$ with explicit subleading terms. For Grothendieck polynomials, a fireworks-layered construction gives $|\mathrm{supp}(\mathfrak G_w)| \ge n!/n^{\sqrt{2n}+1}$, leading to $\lim_{n\to\infty}\frac{\ln(\beta^{\mathfrak G}(n)) - n\ln n}{n} = -1$, i.e., the Grothendieck case matches the Schubert case up to subexponential factors. These results connect to Schubitopes and address questions posed by Guo–Lin about maximal supports.

Abstract

We find a layered permutation $w\in S_n$ whose Schubert polynomial $\mathfrak S_w(x_1, \dots, x_n)$ has support of size asymptotically at least $n!/4^n$. This gives precise asymptotics for the growth rate of $β(n):= \max_{w\in S_n}|\mathrm{supp}(\mathfrak S_w)|$. We find a different layered permutation $w\in S_n$ whose Grothendieck polynomial has support of size asymptotically at least $n!/e^{\sqrt{2n} \cdot \ln(n)}$ and obtain more precise asymptotics for the growth rate of $β^{\mathfrak G}(n):=\max_{w\in S_n}|\mathrm{supp}(\mathfrak G_w)|$.

Asymptotically maximal Schubitopes

TL;DR

The paper investigates the asymptotics of the support sizes of Schubert and Grothendieck polynomials. It introduces the maximal support functions and and proves that their leading growth is governed by , with layered permutations achieving near-optimal bounds. A key technical tool is the Schubitope framework and a recursion for layered permutations that multiplies the support by factorial factors, yielding for a carefully chosen block structure, and hence with explicit subleading terms. For Grothendieck polynomials, a fireworks-layered construction gives , leading to , i.e., the Grothendieck case matches the Schubert case up to subexponential factors. These results connect to Schubitopes and address questions posed by Guo–Lin about maximal supports.

Abstract

We find a layered permutation whose Schubert polynomial has support of size asymptotically at least . This gives precise asymptotics for the growth rate of . We find a different layered permutation whose Grothendieck polynomial has support of size asymptotically at least and obtain more precise asymptotics for the growth rate of .

Paper Structure

This paper contains 4 sections, 12 theorems, 41 equations, 1 figure.

Key Result

Theorem 1.1

Let $\beta(n)\colonequals \max_{w\in S_n}|\mathrm{supp}(\mathfrak S_w)|$. Then More precisely,

Figures (1)

  • Figure 1: The Rothe diagram for $w = 31542$ on the left, and its upwards closure on the right.

Theorems & Definitions (21)

  • Theorem 1.1
  • Theorem 1.2
  • Lemma 2.1
  • proof
  • Theorem 2.2: fms18
  • Lemma 2.3: cf. fms18
  • Lemma 2.4
  • proof
  • Lemma 2.5
  • proof
  • ...and 11 more