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Further remarks on fractional vs. expectation thresholds

Thomas Fischer, Yury Person

TL;DR

The paper develops an abstract, hypergraph-oriented framework to compare fractional and (fractional) expectation thresholds, building on Talagrand’s conjecture. It generalizes the DeMarco–Kahn approach by formulating sufficient conditions, expressed in terms of overlap parameters $(Y_j)$, under which a random family $G$ of unions from the support of a bounded function $g$ certifies $\langle g\rangle\subseteq\langle G\rangle$ with $w(G,p/L)\le1$. Two key theorems provide concrete criteria guaranteeing the existence of such a $G$ in both overlap-controlled and disjoint-union constructions. The results are then specialized to clique hypergraphs, deriving parameter regimes under which the conjectured threshold relationship holds for hypergraph cliques and yielding a corollary that extends the known clique cases. Overall, the work broadens the toolkit for establishing threshold comparability in structured hypergraphs via probabilistic, union-based constructions.

Abstract

A conjecture of Talagrand (2010) states that the so-called expectation and fractional expectation thresholds are always within at most some constant factor from each other. In this note we generalize a method of DeMarco and Kahn and settle a few more special cases.

Further remarks on fractional vs. expectation thresholds

TL;DR

The paper develops an abstract, hypergraph-oriented framework to compare fractional and (fractional) expectation thresholds, building on Talagrand’s conjecture. It generalizes the DeMarco–Kahn approach by formulating sufficient conditions, expressed in terms of overlap parameters , under which a random family of unions from the support of a bounded function certifies with . Two key theorems provide concrete criteria guaranteeing the existence of such a in both overlap-controlled and disjoint-union constructions. The results are then specialized to clique hypergraphs, deriving parameter regimes under which the conjectured threshold relationship holds for hypergraph cliques and yielding a corollary that extends the known clique cases. Overall, the work broadens the toolkit for establishing threshold comparability in structured hypergraphs via probabilistic, union-based constructions.

Abstract

A conjecture of Talagrand (2010) states that the so-called expectation and fractional expectation thresholds are always within at most some constant factor from each other. In this note we generalize a method of DeMarco and Kahn and settle a few more special cases.

Paper Structure

This paper contains 6 sections, 7 theorems, 34 equations.

Key Result

Theorem 4

Assume general assumptions (from Definition def:general_as). Let, additionally, $L\geq 2\cdot e$, $t=p^{-s\cdot k}\cdot n$ and $s\cdot k\geq \ln(n)$ hold. If we have for all $m\in[(s-1)\cdot k]$ then there exists $G\subseteq 2^X\setminus\{\emptyset\}$ with $\left<g\right>\subseteq \left<G\right>$ and $w\left(G,\frac{p}{L}\right)\leq 1$. In particular, inequality eq:thm_one is implied if, for all

Theorems & Definitions (18)

  • Conjecture 1: Conjecture 6 from FP23
  • Conjecture 2
  • Definition 3: General assumptions
  • Theorem 4
  • Theorem 5
  • Lemma 6
  • proof : Proof of Lemma \ref{['lem:find_t']}
  • Lemma 7
  • proof
  • proof : Proof of Theorem \ref{['thm:DMK_one']}
  • ...and 8 more