New Encoders for German Trained from Scratch: Comparing ModernGBERT with Converted LLM2Vec Models
Julia Wunderle, Anton Ehrmanntraut, Jan Pfister, Fotis Jannidis, Andreas Hotho
TL;DR
This work systematically compares two practical paths to high-quality German encoders under identical data and training constraints: training from scratch (ModernGBERT) and converting decoders into encoders via LLM2Vec (LLäMmlein2Vec). It introduces context-extension to 8192 tokens and presents two resources, ModernGBERT and LLäMmlein2Vec, along with an encoder-adapted QA-NIAH benchmark and full training transparency. The results show that from-scratch ModernGBERT, particularly the 1B variant, achieves state-of-the-art performance on SuperGLEBer and strong results on MTEB after fine-tuning, while LLäMmlein2Vec provides competitive performance with much lower training cost, especially when a suitable pre-trained decoder exists. Practically, the paper provides actionable guidance: use from-scratch encoders when parameter efficiency and latency matter, and prefer conversion when pre-trained decoders are available and compute is constrained; all models and training artifacts are released under a research-only license to foster further work.
Abstract
Encoders remain essential for efficient German NLP and NLU scenarios despite the rise of decoder-only LLMs. This work studies two routes to high-quality German encoders under identical data and training constraints: 1) training from scratch and 2) converting decoders via LLM2Vec. We introduce two resources: ModernGBERT (134M, 1B), fully transparent German encoders in the ModernBERT style, and LLäMmleinVec (120M, 1B, 7B), decoder-to-encoder conversions trained with masked next-token prediction, both undergoing a context extension to 8.192 tokens. Across SuperGLEBer, ModernGBERT 1B sets a new state of the art (avg 0.808), surpassing GBERT Large (+4%) and the seven-times larger converted 7B model (0.787). On German MTEB after supervised fine-tuning, ModernGBERT 1B (0.551) approaches the converted 7B model (0.557). We release all models, checkpoints, datasets, and full training records, and introduce an encoder-adapted QA-NIAH evaluation. All in all, our results provide actionable guidance: when parameter efficiency and latency matter, from-scratch encoders dominate. When a pre-trained decoder exists and compute is a limited, conversion offers an effective alternative. ModernGBERT and LLäMmleinVec, including all code, data and intermediary checkpoints are published under a research-only RAIL license.
