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A note on the minimum size of Turán systems

Xizhi Liu, Oleg Pikhurko

TL;DR

This paper studies Turán $(n,s,r)$-systems, where every $s$-subset of an $n$-vertex $r$-graph contains an edge, and focuses on upper bounds for the minimum size $T(n,s,r)$ through the asymptotic density $t(s,r)$ and the derived parameter $\mu(s,r)=t(s,r)\binom{s}{r}$. Building on prior work that handles the extremes $s-r=Ω(r/\ln r)$ and $s-r=O(1)$, the authors address the intermediate regime $1< s-r=O(r/\ln r)$ by proving near-optimal bounds: for any $ε>0$ there exists $r_0$ such that if $R=s-r\ge r_0$, then $\mu(r+R,r) \le (1+ε)R\ln\binom{r+R}{R}$, and a complementary bound $\mu(r+R,r) \le e^{18R^2/r}(1+ε)R\ln R$ when $R\le\sqrt{18r\ln r}$. The method combines a Frankl–Rödl–style probabilistic construction with the Lovász Local Lemma to produce a base Turán system on $[N]$ and a blowup to a larger $n$, yielding explicit control over $|\mathcal{B}|$ and ultimately the $\mu$-bounds. These results extend and unify previous bounds, bridging Sidorenko’s regime and Pik24’s recursion to cover a broad intermediate range of $R$ and improving our understanding of Turán-type densities in high uniformity hypergraphs. $t(s,r)$, $T(n,s,r)$, $\mu(s,r)$, and the intermediate regime $R=s-r$ are central to the analysis, with the Local Lemma and recursive inequalities providing the key technical backbone. $

Abstract

For positive integers $n \ge s > r$, a \emph{Turán $(n,s,r)$-system} is an $n$-vertex $r$-graph in which every set of $s$ vertices contains at least one edge. Let $T(n,s,r)$ denote the the minimum size of a Turán $(n,s,r)$-system. Upper bounds on $T(n,s,r)$ were established by Sidorenko~\cite{Sid97} for the case $s-r = Ω(r/\ln r)$ (based on a construction of Frankl--Rödl~\cite{FR85}) and by a number of authors in the case $s-r = O(1)$. In this note, we establish upper bounds in the remaining range $O(1)<s-r = O(r/\ln r)$.

A note on the minimum size of Turán systems

TL;DR

This paper studies Turán -systems, where every -subset of an -vertex -graph contains an edge, and focuses on upper bounds for the minimum size through the asymptotic density and the derived parameter . Building on prior work that handles the extremes and , the authors address the intermediate regime by proving near-optimal bounds: for any there exists such that if , then , and a complementary bound when . The method combines a Frankl–Rödl–style probabilistic construction with the Lovász Local Lemma to produce a base Turán system on and a blowup to a larger , yielding explicit control over and ultimately the -bounds. These results extend and unify previous bounds, bridging Sidorenko’s regime and Pik24’s recursion to cover a broad intermediate range of and improving our understanding of Turán-type densities in high uniformity hypergraphs. , , , and the intermediate regime are central to the analysis, with the Local Lemma and recursive inequalities providing the key technical backbone. $

Abstract

For positive integers , a \emph{Turán -system} is an -vertex -graph in which every set of vertices contains at least one edge. Let denote the the minimum size of a Turán -system. Upper bounds on were established by Sidorenko~\cite{Sid97} for the case (based on a construction of Frankl--Rödl~\cite{FR85}) and by a number of authors in the case . In this note, we establish upper bounds in the remaining range .
Paper Structure (2 sections, 3 theorems, 31 equations)

This paper contains 2 sections, 3 theorems, 31 equations.

Table of Contents

  1. Introduction
  2. Proofs

Key Result

Theorem 1

For every integer $R \ge 1$, it holds that where $\alpha \coloneqq {(c_0+1)^{R+1}}/{c_0^{R}}$ with $c_0 = c_0(R)$ being the largest real root of the equation $\mathrm{e}^{x} = (x+1)^{R+1}$. In particular, $\mu(r+1,r)\le 4.911$ for all sufficiently large $r$.

Theorems & Definitions (8)

  • Theorem 1: Pik24
  • Theorem 2
  • proof : Proof of Theorem \ref{['THM:main-mu-r-R-general']} \ref{['THM:main-mu-r-R-general-1']}
  • Lemma 3: Pik24
  • proof : Sketch of Proof
  • proof : Proof of Fact \ref{['FACT:inequalities-b']}
  • proof : Proof of Theorem \ref{['THM:main-mu-r-R-general']} \ref{['THM:main-mu-r-R-general-2']}
  • Remark 6