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Separating hypergraph Turán densities

Hong Liu, Bjarne Schülke, Shuaichao Wang, Haotian Yang, Yixiao Zhang

TL;DR

This work addresses the long-standing problem of distinguishing Turán densities for clique hypergraphs in $k$-uniform systems by introducing a general, flag-algebra-free separation criterion. The authors prove $\pi(K_{\ell}^{(k)})<\pi(K_{\ell+1}^{(k)})$ for all $\ell>k\ge 3$ and $\pi(K_{\ell}^{(k)-})<\pi(K_{\ell+1}^{(k)-})$, and deduce $\pi(K_{k+1}^{(k)})<\pi(K_{k+2}^{(k)-})$ for all $k\ge 3$, with the $k=3$ case aligning with Markström's result. They provide a quick negative answer to Erdős's problem via a simple bound, and, crucially, present a new computer-free lower bound for the $k=3$ case using a novel construction that yields $\pi(K_4^{(3)})<\pi(K_5^{(3)-})$ by achieving $0.602673\ldots$ density. Overall, the paper offers a versatile framework for separating hypergraph Turán densities and poses natural open questions about broader families such as daisies $H_t^{(k)}$ and beyond.

Abstract

Determining the Turán densities of hypergraphs is a notoriously difficult problem at the core of combinatorics. Although Turán posed this problem in 1941, $π(K_{\ell}^{(k)})$ remains unknown for all $\ell>k\geq 3$. Prior to this work, it was not even known whether $π(K_{\ell}^{(k)})<π(K_{\ell+1}^{(k)})$ holds for general $\ell$ and $k$, and the best-known bounds on $π(K_{\ell}^{(k)})$ are far from implying anything close to this. We prove that $π(K_{\ell}^{(k)})<π(K_{\ell+1}^{(k)})$, for all $\ell>k\geq 3$, and provide a general criterion to distinguish the Turán densities of two hypergraphs. As a corollary, we obtain that $π(K_{k+1}^{(k)})<π(K_{k+2}^{(k)-})$, for all $k\geq 3$. For $k=3$, this was previously proved by Markström, answering a question by Erdős.

Separating hypergraph Turán densities

TL;DR

This work addresses the long-standing problem of distinguishing Turán densities for clique hypergraphs in -uniform systems by introducing a general, flag-algebra-free separation criterion. The authors prove for all and , and deduce for all , with the case aligning with Markström's result. They provide a quick negative answer to Erdős's problem via a simple bound, and, crucially, present a new computer-free lower bound for the case using a novel construction that yields by achieving density. Overall, the paper offers a versatile framework for separating hypergraph Turán densities and poses natural open questions about broader families such as daisies and beyond.

Abstract

Determining the Turán densities of hypergraphs is a notoriously difficult problem at the core of combinatorics. Although Turán posed this problem in 1941, remains unknown for all . Prior to this work, it was not even known whether holds for general and , and the best-known bounds on are far from implying anything close to this. We prove that , for all , and provide a general criterion to distinguish the Turán densities of two hypergraphs. As a corollary, we obtain that , for all . For , this was previously proved by Markström, answering a question by Erdős.

Paper Structure

This paper contains 4 sections, 7 theorems, 14 equations.

Key Result

Theorem 1.1

For $\ell > k \geq 3$, we have $\pi(K_{\ell}^{(k)}) < \pi(K_{\ell+1}^{(k)})$ and $\pi(K_{\ell}^{(k)-}) < \pi(K_{\ell+1}^{(k)-})$.

Theorems & Definitions (14)

  • Theorem 1.1
  • Theorem 1.3
  • Theorem 1.4
  • Theorem 1.5
  • Corollary 1.6
  • Proposition 2.1
  • proof
  • Lemma 2.2
  • proof
  • proof : Proof of Theorem \ref{['THM:general-result']}
  • ...and 4 more