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On Malle's conjecture for the product of symmetric and nilpotent groups

Hrishabh Mishra, Anwesh Ray

TL;DR

This work proves a strong form of Malle’s conjecture for the product $S_n\times G$ with $n\in\{3,4,5\}$ and $G$ a finite nilpotent group, by embedding $G$ via the regular representation into $S_{|G|}$ and $S_n$ in its natural degree $n$ representation, so that $S_n\times G\hookrightarrow S_{n|G|}$. The authors combine the Klüners–Malle approach with Wang’s results for $S_n$ and a recent nilpotent-extensions parameterization by Koymans–Pagano to establish sharp local uniformity bounds, and they introduce a discriminant-truncation framework $\mathrm{Disc}_Y$ to compare $N_k(S_n\times G; X)$ with the $Y$-localized count $N_{k,Y}(S_n\times G; X)$. A key technical innovation is a tight product-bound principle (extending a lemma for products of two groups) together with a uniformity estimate for nilpotent groups, which together yield the main asymptotic $N_k(S_n\times G; X)\sim c(k,S_n\times G) X^{1/|G|}$ under mild conditions on $G$ (e.g., obstructions only for primes dividing $|G|$ and orders of small primes). The result extends Wang’s earlier work on $S_n\times A$ (with $A$ abelian) and builds a framework likely to apply to broader group families, highlighting the utility of combining local parameterizations with discriminant-control techniques in establishing precise asymptotics for composite Galois groups.

Abstract

Let $G$ be a finite nilpotent group and $n\in \{3,4, 5\}$. Consider $S_n\times G$ as a subgroup of $S_n\times S_{|G|}\subset S_{n|G|}$, where $G$ embeds into the second factor of $S_n\times S_{|G|}$ via the regular representation. Over any number field $k$, we prove the strong form of Malle's conjecture for $S_n\times G$ viewed as a subgroup of $S_{n|G|}$. Our result requires that $G$ satisfies some mild conditions.

On Malle's conjecture for the product of symmetric and nilpotent groups

TL;DR

This work proves a strong form of Malle’s conjecture for the product with and a finite nilpotent group, by embedding via the regular representation into and in its natural degree representation, so that . The authors combine the Klüners–Malle approach with Wang’s results for and a recent nilpotent-extensions parameterization by Koymans–Pagano to establish sharp local uniformity bounds, and they introduce a discriminant-truncation framework to compare with the -localized count . A key technical innovation is a tight product-bound principle (extending a lemma for products of two groups) together with a uniformity estimate for nilpotent groups, which together yield the main asymptotic under mild conditions on (e.g., obstructions only for primes dividing and orders of small primes). The result extends Wang’s earlier work on (with abelian) and builds a framework likely to apply to broader group families, highlighting the utility of combining local parameterizations with discriminant-control techniques in establishing precise asymptotics for composite Galois groups.

Abstract

Let be a finite nilpotent group and . Consider as a subgroup of , where embeds into the second factor of via the regular representation. Over any number field , we prove the strong form of Malle's conjecture for viewed as a subgroup of . Our result requires that satisfies some mild conditions.
Paper Structure (13 sections, 26 theorems, 143 equations)

This paper contains 13 sections, 26 theorems, 143 equations.

Key Result

Theorem 1.3

Let $G$ be a non-trivial finite nilpotent group and $k$ a number field. Consider the regular representation $\operatorname{reg}_G: G\hookrightarrow S_{|G|}$. Here, $S_n\times G$ embeds in $S_{n|G|}$ via natural inclusions Then there exists a constant $c(k,S_n\times G)>0$ such that in the following cases: Thus, Conjecture malle's is true in this setting.

Theorems & Definitions (58)

  • Conjecture 1.1
  • Conjecture 1.2
  • Theorem 1.3
  • Proposition 2.1
  • proof
  • Proposition 2.2
  • proof
  • Lemma 2.3
  • proof
  • Lemma 2.4
  • ...and 48 more