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Random Turán and counting results for general position sets over finite fields

Yaobin Chen, Xizhi Liu, Jiaxi Nie, Ji Zeng

TL;DR

The paper investigates extremal questions for general position sets in finite field spaces $\mathbb{F}_q^d$, focusing on (i) the maximum size $\alpha(\mathbb{F}_q^d,p)$ of a general position subset within a random subset, and (ii) the total count of general position sets in $\mathbb{F}_q^d$. Central to the approach is the hypergraph container method, applied to the coplanarity hypergraph $\mathcal{H}_{q,d}$ and its variants, together with incidence-structure pseudorandomness in low dimensions. The authors obtain: (a) sharp or near-sharp bounds for $\alpha(\mathbb{F}_q^2,p)$ across all $p$ and essentially tight upper bounds for $\alpha(\mathbb{F}_q^d,p)$ in higher dimensions within certain $p$-ranges; (b) asymptotically tight (in the exponent) upper bounds for the total number of general position sets in $\mathbb{F}_q^d$ and, for fixed sizes $m$, near-optimal bounds extending prior work to all $d$ (with a dimension-2 improvement); and (c) refined counting results leveraging pseudorandomness of the 2D point-line incidence graph. The results deepen the understanding of random Turán-type phenomena and counting in finite-field geometries, with techniques adaptable to higher-dimensional incidence and evasive-set problems. Overall, the work advances the exact and near-exact characterization of general-position phenomena in finite field geometries via containers and supersaturation arguments.

Abstract

Let $α(\mathbb{F}_q^d,p)$ denote the maximum size of a general position set in a $p$-random subset of $\mathbb{F}_q^d$. We determine the order of magnitude of $α(\mathbb{F}_q^2,p)$ up to polylogarithmic factors for all possible values of $p$, improving the previous results obtained by Roche-Newton--Warren and Bhowmick--Roche-Newton. For $d \ge 3$ we prove upper bounds for $α(\mathbb{F}_q^d,p)$ that are essentially tight within certain ranges for $p$. We establish the upper bound $2^{(1+o(1))q}$ for the number of general position sets in $\mathbb{F}_q^d$, which matches the trivial lower bound $2^{q}$ asymptotically in the exponent. We also refine this counting result by proving an asymptotically tight (in the exponent) upper bound for the number of general position sets with a fixed size. The latter result for $d=2$ improves a result of Roche-Newton--Warren. Our proofs are grounded in the hypergraph container method, and additionally, for $d=2$ we also leverage the pseudorandomness of the point-line incidence graph of $\mathbb{F}_{q}^2$.

Random Turán and counting results for general position sets over finite fields

TL;DR

The paper investigates extremal questions for general position sets in finite field spaces , focusing on (i) the maximum size of a general position subset within a random subset, and (ii) the total count of general position sets in . Central to the approach is the hypergraph container method, applied to the coplanarity hypergraph and its variants, together with incidence-structure pseudorandomness in low dimensions. The authors obtain: (a) sharp or near-sharp bounds for across all and essentially tight upper bounds for in higher dimensions within certain -ranges; (b) asymptotically tight (in the exponent) upper bounds for the total number of general position sets in and, for fixed sizes , near-optimal bounds extending prior work to all (with a dimension-2 improvement); and (c) refined counting results leveraging pseudorandomness of the 2D point-line incidence graph. The results deepen the understanding of random Turán-type phenomena and counting in finite-field geometries, with techniques adaptable to higher-dimensional incidence and evasive-set problems. Overall, the work advances the exact and near-exact characterization of general-position phenomena in finite field geometries via containers and supersaturation arguments.

Abstract

Let denote the maximum size of a general position set in a -random subset of . We determine the order of magnitude of up to polylogarithmic factors for all possible values of , improving the previous results obtained by Roche-Newton--Warren and Bhowmick--Roche-Newton. For we prove upper bounds for that are essentially tight within certain ranges for . We establish the upper bound for the number of general position sets in , which matches the trivial lower bound asymptotically in the exponent. We also refine this counting result by proving an asymptotically tight (in the exponent) upper bound for the number of general position sets with a fixed size. The latter result for improves a result of Roche-Newton--Warren. Our proofs are grounded in the hypergraph container method, and additionally, for we also leverage the pseudorandomness of the point-line incidence graph of .
Paper Structure (18 sections, 23 theorems, 71 equations, 2 figures)

This paper contains 18 sections, 23 theorems, 71 equations, 2 figures.

Key Result

Theorem 1.1

As the prime power $q\to \infty$, asymptotically almost surely, we have Moreover, all $q^{o(1)}$ factors here are polylogarithmic.

Figures (2)

  • Figure 1: The behaviour of $\alpha(\mathbb{F}_q^2,p)$ in terms of $p$.
  • Figure 2: Lower and upper bounds for $\alpha(\mathbb{F}_q^d,p)$ in terms of $p$.

Theorems & Definitions (46)

  • Theorem 1.1
  • Theorem 1.2
  • Theorem 1.3
  • Theorem 1.4
  • Theorem 1.5
  • Lemma 2.1: Goldman--Rota goldman1969number
  • Lemma 2.2: Balogh--Morris--Samotij balogh2015independent, Saxton--Thomason saxton2015hypergraph
  • Lemma 3.1
  • Lemma 3.2
  • proof
  • ...and 36 more