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Does $\mathsf{DC}$ imply $\mathsf{AC}_ω$, uniformly?

Alessandro Andretta, Lorenzo Notaro

TL;DR

The paper investigates whether dependent choice DC can uniformly imply countable choice AC_ω across all sets X. It demonstrates that AC_ω(ℝ) suffices to obtain AC_ω(X) from DC(X) in many cases, but it is consistent with ZF that there exists A ⊆ ℝ with DC(A) while AC_ω(A) fails, established via an ω-long iteration of symmetric extensions starting from a Cohen model. The construction shows A is not separable and contains no nonempty perfect subset, yet DC(A) holds, highlighting a separability/topology aspect of the counterexample. The work further analyzes the behavior of DC under finite unions, contrasts with the Feferman-Levy model where such a counterexample cannot occur, and discusses definability concerns and higher descriptive-set-theoretic implications for the counterexample.

Abstract

The Axiom of Dependent Choice $\mathsf{DC}$ and the Axiom of Countable Choice $\mathsf{AC}_ω$ are two weak forms of the Axiom of Choice that can be stated for a specific set: $\mathsf{DC}(X)$ asserts that any total binary relation on $X$ has an infinite chain, while $\mathsf{AC}_ω(X)$ asserts that any countable collection of nonempty subsets of $X$ has a choice function. It is well-known that $\mathsf{DC} \Rightarrow \mathsf{AC}_ω$. We study for which sets and under which hypotheses $\mathsf{DC}(X) \Rightarrow \mathsf{AC}_ω(X)$, and then we show it is consistent with $\mathsf{ZF}$ that there is a set $A \subseteq \mathbb{R}$ for which $\mathsf{DC} (A)$ holds, but $\mathsf{AC}_ω(A)$ fails.

Does $\mathsf{DC}$ imply $\mathsf{AC}_ω$, uniformly?

TL;DR

The paper investigates whether dependent choice DC can uniformly imply countable choice AC_ω across all sets X. It demonstrates that AC_ω(ℝ) suffices to obtain AC_ω(X) from DC(X) in many cases, but it is consistent with ZF that there exists A ⊆ ℝ with DC(A) while AC_ω(A) fails, established via an ω-long iteration of symmetric extensions starting from a Cohen model. The construction shows A is not separable and contains no nonempty perfect subset, yet DC(A) holds, highlighting a separability/topology aspect of the counterexample. The work further analyzes the behavior of DC under finite unions, contrasts with the Feferman-Levy model where such a counterexample cannot occur, and discusses definability concerns and higher descriptive-set-theoretic implications for the counterexample.

Abstract

The Axiom of Dependent Choice and the Axiom of Countable Choice are two weak forms of the Axiom of Choice that can be stated for a specific set: asserts that any total binary relation on has an infinite chain, while asserts that any countable collection of nonempty subsets of has a choice function. It is well-known that . We study for which sets and under which hypotheses , and then we show it is consistent with that there is a set for which holds, but fails.
Paper Structure (15 sections, 31 theorems, 96 equations)