A semiclassical ramp in SYK and in gravity
Phil Saad, Stephen H. Shenker, Douglas Stanford
TL;DR
The paper investigates how a non-decaying, ramp-like late-time behavior in finite-entropy quantum systems arises from semiclassical dynamics. By constructing two-replica saddles in the SYK model (Brownian and regular) and identifying corresponding gravitational geometries (notably a time-identified two-sided black hole or double cone in JT gravity), the authors show a mechanism for linear-in-T ramp contributions with zero action and a symmetry-breaking zero mode. They connect these saddles to random-matrix expectations for the spectral form factor and discuss the plateau's origin as a nonperturbative effect, while highlighting unresolved issues such as factorization, wiggles, and the precise plateau mechanism. The work advances the understanding of how ensemble-averaged bulk descriptions can reproduce universal late-time spectral statistics and informs the black hole information problem by tying ramp phenomena to semiclassical gravity and replica-based field theories.
Abstract
In finite entropy systems, real-time partition functions do not decay to zero at late time. Instead, assuming random matrix universality, suitable averages exhibit a growing "ramp" and "plateau" structure. Deriving this non-decaying behavior in a large $N$ collective field description is a challenge related to one version of the black hole information problem. We describe a candidate semiclassical explanation of the ramp for the SYK model and for black holes. In SYK, this is a two-replica nonperturbative saddle point for the large $N$ collective fields, with zero action and a compact zero mode that leads to a linearly growing ramp. In the black hole context, the solution is a two-sided black hole that is periodically identified under a Killing time translation. We discuss but do not resolve some puzzles that arise.
